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i3 FAQ - Individual question feedhttps://faq.i3wm.org/questions/Frequently asked questions and answers about the i3 window managerenCopyright i3, 2012Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:30:40 +0000logout with Mod+Shift+e discards unsafed documents. How to avoid this?https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/if i have i.e. an open and unsaved libre office document and close the window with Mod+Sift+q Libre Office asks me, if I want to save the document before closing. But this does not happen if I logout with Mod+Shift+e. the document is lost (if libre Office could not recover). How can I logout from i3 with clean closing of windows? Thanks!Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:22:06 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/Answer by maikel for if i have i.e. an open and unsaved libre office document and close the window with Mod+Sift+q Libre Office asks me, if I want to save the document before closing. But this does not happen if I logout with Mod+Shift+e. the document is lost (if libre Office could not recover). How can I logout from i3 with clean closing of windows? Thanks! https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4381#post-id-4381Sorry, I do not accept your answer as a good answer to my question. I would like it the way all desktop environments (Gnome, ...) do it. They close the window properly. It does not only concern to unsaved documents. Also, i.e. Firefox does not close a clean way. After logout and login to i3, firefox tells "Sorry, Firefox crashed...". I think this means, i3 kills all applications the hard way. Why? This is not usefull. I can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout. So does anyone have an idea why i3 is doing so or has someone a solution how to close all windows safely before logout?Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:03:38 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4381#post-id-4381Comment by Eireannach for Sorry, I do not accept your answer as a good answer to my question. I would like it the way all desktop environments (Gnome, ...) do it. They close the window properly. It does not only concern to unsaved documents. Also, i.e. Firefox does not close a clean way. After logout and login to i3, firefox tells "Sorry, Firefox crashed...". I think this means, i3 kills all applications the hard way. Why? This is not usefull. I can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout. So does anyone have an idea why i3 is doing so or has someone a solution how to close all windows safely before logout? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=5177#comment-5177"I cannot close all open windows with Mod+shift+Q before logout". Is this not what you in fact do when using say Gnome Desktop etc - close the window by clicking the x button for each open window then logoff/shutdown. Mod+shift+E is killing X window server which effectively crashes open applicationsSun, 14 Dec 2014 16:30:40 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=5177#comment-5177Comment by maikel for Sorry, I do not accept your answer as a good answer to my question. I would like it the way all desktop environments (Gnome, ...) do it. They close the window properly. It does not only concern to unsaved documents. Also, i.e. Firefox does not close a clean way. After logout and login to i3, firefox tells "Sorry, Firefox crashed...". I think this means, i3 kills all applications the hard way. Why? This is not usefull. I can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout. So does anyone have an idea why i3 is doing so or has someone a solution how to close all windows safely before logout? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4385#comment-4385Do the things like you want. I asked if somebody knows a solution to the behavior that I would like.Sun, 03 Aug 2014 21:58:23 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4385#comment-4385Comment by ANOKNUSA for Sorry, I do not accept your answer as a good answer to my question. I would like it the way all desktop environments (Gnome, ...) do it. They close the window properly. It does not only concern to unsaved documents. Also, i.e. Firefox does not close a clean way. After logout and login to i3, firefox tells "Sorry, Firefox crashed...". I think this means, i3 kills all applications the hard way. Why? This is not usefull. I can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout. So does anyone have an idea why i3 is doing so or has someone a solution how to close all windows safely before logout? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4383#comment-4383Saying that you "can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout" is a bit overly absolute, don't you think? How many windows can you possibly have open? Many more than necessary, I'd wager.Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:47:02 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4383#comment-4383Comment by Adaephon for Sorry, I do not accept your answer as a good answer to my question. I would like it the way all desktop environments (Gnome, ...) do it. They close the window properly. It does not only concern to unsaved documents. Also, i.e. Firefox does not close a clean way. After logout and login to i3, firefox tells "Sorry, Firefox crashed...". I think this means, i3 kills all applications the hard way. Why? This is not usefull. I can not close all open windows with Mod+Shift+Q before logout. So does anyone have an idea why i3 is doing so or has someone a solution how to close all windows safely before logout? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4387#comment-4387@maikel please use the comment function to respond to answers. Posting an answer should be reserved to answers to the original questionMon, 04 Aug 2014 09:44:00 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4387#comment-4387Answer by KJ44 for if i have i.e. an open and unsaved libre office document and close the window with Mod+Sift+q Libre Office asks me, if I want to save the document before closing. But this does not happen if I logout with Mod+Shift+e. the document is lost (if libre Office could not recover). How can I logout from i3 with clean closing of windows? Thanks! https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4398#post-id-4398To get Gnome *Desktop Environment* behaviour from i3 *Window Manager* I'd suggest experimenting with a script that calls 'gnome-session-save' or similar. It might "just work" but you might have to start various Gnome daemons and the like to get it all to work. http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-logout-ubuntu-13-04-system-with-the-gnome-session-quit-command/ If that won't fly, maybe try using DBUS to save files before shutting down i3wm?Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:27:30 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4398#post-id-4398Comment by maikel for To get Gnome Desktop Environment behaviour from i3 Window Manager I'd suggest experimenting with a script that calls 'gnome-session-save' or similar. It might "just work" but you might have to start various Gnome daemons and the like to get it all to work. <a href="http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-logout-ubuntu-13-04-system-with-the-gnome-session-quit-command/">http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-log...</a> If that won't fly, maybe try using DBUS to save files before shutting down i3wm? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4411#comment-4411Got it. I3 has already the solution. For a clean shutdown of i.e. firefox and a subsequent logout: i3-msg '[class="firefox"] kill; sleep 1; i3-msg 'exit'Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:01:04 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4411#comment-4411Comment by KJ44 for To get Gnome Desktop Environment behaviour from i3 Window Manager I'd suggest experimenting with a script that calls 'gnome-session-save' or similar. It might "just work" but you might have to start various Gnome daemons and the like to get it all to work. <a href="http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-logout-ubuntu-13-04-system-with-the-gnome-session-quit-command/">http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-log...</a> If that won't fly, maybe try using DBUS to save files before shutting down i3wm? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4409#comment-4409xdotool ... http://www.semicomplete.com/projects/xdotool/ ... probably. Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:51:51 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4409#comment-4409Comment by maikel for To get Gnome Desktop Environment behaviour from i3 Window Manager I'd suggest experimenting with a script that calls 'gnome-session-save' or similar. It might "just work" but you might have to start various Gnome daemons and the like to get it all to work. <a href="http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-logout-ubuntu-13-04-system-with-the-gnome-session-quit-command/">http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-log...</a> If that won't fly, maybe try using DBUS to save files before shutting down i3wm? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4402#comment-4402Thanks for your answer. The i3 Mod+Shift+Q command does the right thing. In the user guide they say: for applications which support the WM_DELETE protocol, this will correctly close the application (saving any modifications). How can I send a WM_DELETE to specific windows with a bash script?Wed, 06 Aug 2014 07:51:30 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4402#comment-4402Comment by KJ44 for To get Gnome Desktop Environment behaviour from i3 Window Manager I'd suggest experimenting with a script that calls 'gnome-session-save' or similar. It might "just work" but you might have to start various Gnome daemons and the like to get it all to work. <a href="http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-logout-ubuntu-13-04-system-with-the-gnome-session-quit-command/">http://linuxg.net/shutdown-reboot-log...</a> If that won't fly, maybe try using DBUS to save files before shutting down i3wm? https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4410#comment-4410wmctrl ... http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/ ... probably.Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:53:24 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?comment=4410#comment-4410Answer by ANOKNUSA for if i have i.e. an open and unsaved libre office document and close the window with Mod+Sift+q Libre Office asks me, if I want to save the document before closing. But this does not happen if I logout with Mod+Shift+e. the document is lost (if libre Office could not recover). How can I logout from i3 with clean closing of windows? Thanks! https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4376#post-id-4376Don't rely on a machine to remind you not to throw your work away. Computers are stupid, and while they can be made to do some wonderful things, time spent trying to make them do someting smart might be better spent learning good work habits. Every time you make a change to a document, save it. Full stop. Even if (for whatever reason) you don't save every single time you make a change you shouldn't give yourself the opportunity to forget that you have unsaved work. [Avoid multitasking like the plague](http://www.npr.org/2013/05/10/182861382/the-myth-of-multitasking). It's pointless. Finish what's important and then move on to the next task.Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:28:56 +0000https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4371/logout-with-modshifte-discards-unsafed-documents-how-to-avoid-this/?answer=4376#post-id-4376